Thursday, September 07, 2006

The Trade open thread

So now almost a full year after the trade of Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell, and the day after Sanchez' no-hitter, do you or do you not want a do-over?

Ramirez has been better than I thought he'd be, especially this year. One no-hitter in half a season as a starter looks impressive but doesn't a career make.
Lowell has been much better than we could have hoped he'd be, and Beckett has been a disappointment compared to his past and expectations.

My vote: If Lowell's gone after this year and Beckett remains inconsistent, I want a do-over and take my chances with the still largely unproven youngsters; but who's to say that next year and beyond Beckett doesn't return to his old form or, better yet, lives up to his promise and the kids don't fully pan out.


LittleCuz said...

Well first off I dont' think Lowell has played better than I could have hoped, I'd say rather he did exactly what I expected him to. He had the one bad year, but you look at his career numbers and this season is in line with them. Just as one good season doesn't a carreer make, one bad one doesn't a has been make.

As for Rameriz, I'd actually hold out and see what Gonzalez pans out like. If they sign him to a new contract, I'm happy, if not, I'm wishing we had Hanley back. I just don't see Pedroia as an SS. I know this isn't going to happen, but damn I wish Epstein would stop fuckin around and just sign the guys that are free agents. Pay Nixon what he wants, he's worth every cent, keep a squad together for more than one season, see how that works instead of this constant reconstruction.

As for Beckett, I need another season to pass judgement, he's only 26 years old. He's still young and inconsistancy comes with youth. Pedro didn't become Pedro until he was nearly 30. When he dominated in '99 he was 27. No I don't think Beckett will be as good as Pedro, but my point is that inspite of his past successes, he's still young and has a lot of good years to go. I'm not ready to write him off yet.

AA said...

A tardy response...
Well, hindsight is 20-20. A month ago - prior to the injuries/tanking and the impressive no-hitter - we wouldn't be raising this question. Right now we're citing Beckett's inconsistency (which has actually been noticeable all season) as a cause for concern. It is, but perhaps not to the extent that it seems. I agree with Aaron in that he's a young guy who has too much raw talent to dismiss yet. With some good coaching and a bit of experience I feel he has the stuff and makeup to be an ace, even on the Sox. Lowell has pleasantly surprised me, but that says as much about my ignorance of his record than anything else. Nonetheless, I do think that he has taken an uncommon liking to the monster, and his 2B totals show that very well. And his defense! That I wasn't prepared for. Which brings me to A-Gon - they have to sign this guy! For the money he'll be the best option they have. His defense is an unbelievable improvement over Renteria and his numbers aren't all that far off either. Considering that he warmed up considerably in the second half, it's possible that his early inactivity had to do with getting used to the pressure-cooker that is Boston. (I agree that Pedroia is a second baseman, and will most likely be next year.) As for Trot, well, I think he's too fragile to count on. I love the guy and his hard-nosed playing but like Darrin Erstad, that approach has contributed to his rapid downfall. I was concerned about his power numbers this year as well - that part of his game seems to be over. Wily Mo isn't quite there yet but he's clearly their OF for the near future. Notwithstanding, Trot and his albatross mid-level salary has to go.
It will be interesting to see what happens this off-season. Theo needs to pull some nifty shit and get the team (if also his reputation) back into the good graces. This year has been a massive disappointment, made all the more so by it's nearly immediate decline. Let's hope that the team gets back on track because I think I speak for all of us in saying that we don't want another year like this again.